Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-25951143-20150101110046/@comment-17259909-20151002204258

Viviburn wrote: DinoTaur wrote: Viviburn wrote: I *have* read all of the past comments, and some were right to call people out on being transphobic.

Pigzillion wrote:

A Lot of people throw the " killua called her a girl so Alluka must be a girl"  argument in there, but I'm pretty sure that's just Killua being nice. After all, Alluka clearly looks and acts like a girl and may very well be a female in nature and psyche, but that doesn't change the fact that biologically Alluka would still be male,   That is the DEFINITION of transphobia, equating gender to sex. I didn't want to drag old comments into this, but if you're willing to pull out hurtful things someone on our side of the arguement said a few months ago, then I can call out your old stuff, too. The person who said 'kill yourself' was wrong, I'm not condoning their actions, and I know what it's like to be suicidal, but they haven't been in on this conversation for months. Hunterbowl was talking about how calm and rational recent comments have been, because I'm sure they know how quickly dialogues like this can degrade to personal attacks and petty insults. Could you state an example where calling people transphobic was justified? Transphobia is defined as "intense dislike of or prejudice against transsexual or transgender people" (Oxford Dictionary). Did anyone state that they didn't want Alluka to be female because they had negative feelings towards transsexuality? Do you disagree that the comment I quoted was transphobic, a quote that equivilates to, 'gender identity doesn't matter, biological sex does'? Did I say the person who said it hates trans folk? No, I didn't. However, what they said was transphobic, whether it was intentional or not. People have the right to point this out and help others understand why it's not right. Being called out for saying stuff like this...why is that being equated to the severity of the original comment? You know, I was literally just asking for examples. I had every intention of agreeing with you if you could provide the appropriate examples. However, what you have just called as transphobic is actually being objective, if you really want, apathetic, but definitely not hate. I know, the opposite of love is indifference/apathy, but as a wiki, we cannot afford to "love". If something was said like, "Alluka can't be transsexual because it would be weird," that would be closer to transphobic. And no, we are not equating gender with sex, we just choose to use sex as our representative. Now, maybe we could change the infobox from saying gender to sex so it would be more accurate in your eyes. I don't know if it can be done, I'm not an admin here, and it would take A LOT of work.