Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-26005711-20160110101622/@comment-5780397-20160111010937

Counter counter:

1- This means little. Hisoka won a fight with both arms severed. Plus, he decided to catch the ball and reflect it that way so that it would remain stuck to Razor's hands. But again, we are talking about Hisoka here, not Illumi. We know absolutely nothing about his physical abilities.

2- Yes, but that's not what I meant. Razor reflecting the ball has little to do with combat ability, unless Illumi fires a cannonball at him, and that's highly unlikely; besides, even Gon could have dodged if he had not fainted. But my real point was that Gon, who had been studying Nen for a couple of months, managed to use an attack as powerful as Razor's best offensive technique.

3- Ok, but then again, even though Ging praised Razor's strength, we don't know if Ging actually had to try hard to defeat him. We don't even know if the people he had met until that point (and he was very young then) were strong or not.

4- Gittarackur's build is much bigger than Illumi's but anyway, I was just trying to say we can't rule out the possibility of Illumi having battle-oriented abilities, since he has never needed them until now.

5- Why? It depends on how much aura Razor uses to defend himself, it's not like he was caught unawares: he calmly prepared to defend from a single attack he could clearly see, and he knew exactly where it would have hit. Besides, Gon's ball was propelled by his ability, not coated with aura. Anyway, Gon's abilities increased a lot since the GI arc, you can't compare the power of those two attacks. Keep in mind Razor was bruised by Goreinu's ball, and he is far from being as powerful and skilled as Illumi.

6- That "regular guard" was a pro Hunter who was accepted as a proctor by a committee. If that is what Illumi's needles can do, why shouldn't they work against Razor?

7- No, he didn't know about Hisoka. And even when he pondered all the options, he never thought about fighting Illumi. In the manga, Killua only said Illumi would cease to be his brother. My points of Illumi being able to defeat Tsubone - or at least being convinced to be able to do so - and having enough skills to train Killua are still valid.

8- I concur. However, I'd add that Illumi's murderous aura (Ren) could be felt from the foot of a mountain. From how it was drawn, it doesn't look like Razor's aura is that powerful.

Again, I don't think any of these points can be used to prove that Razor is even slightly stronger than Illumi (or weaker for that matter). We simply don't know enough, we can only speculate.