Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-25951143-20150101110046/@comment-26871067-20160817171148

&quot;I Want a Stand&quot; by me wrote: Olivemeister wrote: &quot;I Want a Stand&quot; by me wrote: Olivemeister wrote: &quot;I Want a Stand&quot; by me wrote: Sorry, at what point did I say "Alluka isn't transgender"? Because I was not trying to say that. I was trying to say "the narrative treats Alluka as a girl so why are we still fighting over whether or not she is one", not "Alluka is a girl with a vagina". I was commenting on Alluka's gender, not her sex. Her gender is actually a really awkward issue, since they could be merely wearing the girly cloths for Nanika's sake as they seem to care for Nanika greatly so much so they slapped Killua for shouting at Nanika. I am not saying they couldn't be a transgender, but I don't think there is much concrete evidence that seriously points towards that notion besides thyeir dressing attire. I mean it's really not an awkward issue. Like I said, the chapter title + Togashi having put a transgender character in both Level E and Yu Yu Hakushou + the whole point of the Killua side of the Election Arc being "Killua is the only one who understands Alluka and Nanika and the Zoldycks outside of him are consistently wrong and uninformed about them to the point of not realizing they're two separate beings".

You said yourself a few things that are very telling that you believe Alluka is a transgender girl (particularly " The title reflects how Killua views Alluka perfectly"  ), but are apparently balking at actually saying she is, so I'm a little confused as to whether or not you understand what being transgender actually entails.

I wanna make it really clear that I'm not trying to judge or attack, I'm legitimately confused as to how you could agree that Killua being right about Alluka and Nanika is a plot point (and actually be the one to bring it up) but not believe that Alluka is (I thought pretty obviously) transgender and that that's the simple explanation for the Zoldycks referring to her as a boy (very rarely, in fact, and mostly in flashbacks).

When I refer to Alluka and how Killua understands them by seeing them as a sister, I was using "Alluka" to refer to both Alluka and Nanika (consider we're pushed by Togashi to view them as 1 person even though they really ain't). Yeah I didn't clarify that out, hence a bit of inconsistency it would seem.

Alluka's sex is male, very much undisputed at this point I think. But I remain unsure about their mental identity. They could be a transgender, or merely a kind boy who dresses up for the other soul inside their body, there doesn't seem to be evidence that supports either, is what I was saying in the last post.

Then again, idk. I'd argue that Togashi was pushing that they're not one person, since that was a misconception Silva (and the rest of the Zoldycks minus Killua) had until Killua started to verbalize the distinction between them that he knew to be the case. And, again, them being two different people (and the Zoldycks' lack of understanding of this) was a plot point, so I wouldn't say he wanted us to think they're the same person (except for before that was revealed).

I don't know that anyone is really arguing (at least not anymore) that Alluka wasn't born male and considered a boy in her early life, honestly. I think everyone pretty solidly knows this is the case at this point and the point of contention is whether or not she identifies as a girl (which I thought was... pretty clear to be the case, but I guess it wasn't that clear to everyone).

As for the "Alluka could be dressing as a girl for Nanika's sake" argument, again there's the fact that Killua, who knows they're different people and has in fact just made it clear and proven that he's not being secretive about it by saying what he did to Silva, calls Alluka, not Nanika, a girl in front of Gotoh. He's just proven that he's making the distinction between them and is calling them by their names, so the fact that he says Alluka means that he means Alluka.

Additionally, if Alluka was only doing this for Nanika why would she be using a highly-feminine personal pronoun (atashi, as noted above)? That has nothing to do with Nanika. The idea that Alluka was only dressing as a girl for Nanika's sake always felt like grasping at straws for any reason to say she isn't a trans girl to me, no offense meant.

(Also, sorry to comment on such a relatively minor thing, "transgender" is an adjective not a noun! Someone isn't "a" transgender, they're transgender or a transgender boy/girl. This is something that can be a little frustrating to trans people.)