Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4828844-20150811092518/@comment-29802680-20160909011326

Olivemeister wrote: Pigzillion wrote: Manipulators can manipulate their own nen, it doesn't have to be an outside entity; Razor manipulates his own Nen in the form of his Devils, Goreinu manipulates his own Nen in the form of his Gorillas, etc. Granted, while both of the previous examples are emitters, they are still incorporating Manipulation into their hatsus, and are both manipulating their own Nen.

And using such logic, would you say that Neon/Chrollo is also manipulating time in order to give fortunes to people? Would you say that Meleoron is manipulating reality in order to activate God's Alibi? Moreover, the nature of Nen shown in the show and the different Nen types means that it isn't impossible to copy someone else's hatsu, unless their hatsu falls under specialisation. As such, unless you're saying that a powerful manipulator could recreate any of the examples I have given to at least some degree, they must fall under specialisation. While I agree 100% with the sentiment (basically, "because of the wiggle room with what exactly counts as which nen type any nen ability can eventually be logic'd into any nen category with enough finagling, but that doesn't mean it actually belongs there"), Goreinu actually is a manipulator. The wiki had him incorrectly listed as an emitter for a very long time. I brought it up in a different thread a while back, multiple sources confirm him as a manipulator.

Interesting.... the complexity of nen....I bet Togashi himself is confused, lol that's why he took a break..

Maybe this serries is a product of nen? :)