Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-9051002-20170820023748/@comment-35409268-20180520103825

Zeriel00 wrote: 1.) Bisky uses Transmutation because her main ability is transmutation (The Aura turned into lotion) if it was conjuration she would have to summon a body and somehow "possess" the body she conjured otherwise it would be a dead body on the floor. She said the change happened over time witch means her own body changed, nothing was summoned. She not knowing how it happened is irrelevant. If you can see Biscuit you can see the effects of transmutation. Just because it changes the quality of Aura doesn't mean it can't change anything else like I already mentioned above.

2.)  "The two basic types of abilities of a Transmuter don't match with Texture Surprise, not without the explanation being unnecessarily more complicated and stretched than with the use of Conjuration"

What do you mean? it matches perfectly and being complicated or not is irrelevant. Like I said before, Hisoka is a transmuter and the original creator of texture surprise is also a transmuter I don't think this is coinsidence. Hisoka needs a Hankerchief or a Nen covering BEFORE using texture surprise so he is transmuting one substance into another. If Hisoka didn't need to do this and the ability came from nowhere then you could argue it was conjuration.

3.) A lot of people are making the mistake that transmutation is invisible 100% of the time when that's not the case. Transmutation changes the quality of Aura, true, Aura is invisible, this also true but it was never mentioned that you can't transmute something that is visible because if you use Aura to change the properties of an object like color and texture then you can see it.

How Texture Surprise works:

Hisoka didn't summon a human foot, he summoned his aura, shaped it into a foot and with texture surprise change the color and texture to look like a foot.

Do you understand that Hisoka didn't learn to summon human limbs and Biscuit is not a walking puppet/corpse nor is she invisible? They changed the composition of something with transmutation. I don't know why this is so difficult to understand.

Firstly

You are stating as if Bungee Gum and Texture Surprise are one ability. They are not. When Hisoka made a foot, he used Bungee Gum to shape it and Texture Surprise added onto it to change its appearance, making it still possible that Texture Surprise is Conjuration. Also, Hisoka applied this onto a non flat, semi-solid, and thick as limbs Aura even though it is stated that Hisoka can only apply it on flat, solid, and thin objects like paper or cloth. It may be possible that Hisoka is simply not as skilled a Conjurerer to do that prior to his death and gained enough skill to do so after his rebirth that has made him stronger. It may just be possible that he can now apply Texture Surprise on both Aura and physical objects.It is still very much possible that its a Conjuration ability.

The reason as to why Hisoka does not simply conjure up a Hankerchief as a surface for Texture Surprise is as seen in the scene where he decieves the Phantom Troupe about his future. He couldn't just summon a Hankerchief and turn it into a letter right in front of the Phantom Troupe. He had to do it onto the letter. Basically, there are situations where he would have to do something on a particular surface.

Also, do not use John Doe in the argument. He is a non canon character and we are arguing of a canon ability.

Second,

All appearances of Body Changing with Nen are NOT Transmutation at all. Quite the opposite, actually. Both cases are Manipulation by Illumi and Shaiapouf. You cannot argue that because Bisky is a Transmuter, it must be transmutation since its her most compatible Nen type and Manipulation is her least. We have never seen anything that connotes that Transmutation affects the body of the user, only Manipulation or maybe Specialization.

Third,

It may be possible that Nen can still stimulate other senses of Non Nen Users. They may give special taste properties to their aura that can simulate taste. And for argument's sake, Emission changes the color of the water, it makes no sense. What makes a little sense but still does not connect is Enhancement, which increases the volume even though its supposed to enhance and duplicating things would be conjuration.

There is no evidence to Transmutation changing the physical properties of an object as I said above, all your points are meaningless.