Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-25951143-20150101110046/@comment-25814498-20160105180019

Martialmaniac wrote: Viviburn wrote: Martialmaniac wrote: I too have come to believe Alluka is a boy who identifies himself as female, precisely as it's stated on the page of the character in question. If you think she identifies as female, why are you using the male pronouns in this comment? I'm trying to stay calm and rational, but people repeatably make the same mistakes even after being corrected. If someone calls you transphobic, more often than not it's because you're saying something that either dismisses or outright denies that someone's identity is valid. You might not be trying to do this, but when it keeps getting pointed out and nothing changes, it comes off as if you just do not care.

In the context of this comment, Alluka identifies as female, so she IS female. You're admitting that she id's female, but that it doesn't matter to you because she was assigned male at birth. Do you see the problem here? You're acknowledging someone else's identification and disregarding it in the same breath! This is what we're trying to combat, and some have to do it every day.

Anyways, time for the usual disclaimer: I am ok with Alluka's page as it is now with no pronouns instead of male pronouns (of course I would love to see female pronouns, but after countless exchanges, it seems like that won't happen any time soon). I'm simply here to discuss the important topic of gender identity and its presence in fictional media, which has a major connection to reality. Would you stop jumping to conclusions? You are being pretty irritating in your quest to prove anyone else wrong. Doesn't the phrase "Alluka is a boy who identify herself as female" sound grammatically incorrect in your head? Maybe I wasn't trying to reject what I said I had accepted, simply to use a pronoun that seemed better suited to the contest. Since this is not Alluka's article, and I'm not insulting the character - a fictional character - I think it should be ok if I use the pronoun that expresses more clearly what I mean. Simply, since I said "boy" before, "himself" sounded better, due to "as female" coming afterwards. Had Alluka been the subject of the next sentence, I would have said "she", but this is mere formalism.

I didn't think it could be perceived in such an offensive way, especially since I had just said I consider Alluka female. Do you need to act all high and mighty to the point you have to pick on the slightest mistake despite everything else I said?

Oh shit, you actually got martial mad. Good going buddy. That's the first time I've seen this happen